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		<description><![CDATA[<p>As I told in the last few lines of my previous post, I had some issues installing the Oracle 10g client on my Windows 7 installation. After installing the 10g client, I immediately noticed it wouldn&#8217;t work: When opening the Microsoft ODBC Administrator, the Oracle datasource just wasn&#8217;t there. So I started to Google and </p><p><div style="font-size: 0.8em"><a href="http://www.bermione.be/technology/the-world-is-not-quite-ready-for-64bit/">The world is not quite ready for 64bit</a> originally read on <a href="http://www.bermione.be">bermione.be</a></div></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/64bit.png"><img class="colorbox-1405"  src="/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/64bit.png" alt="64bit" title="64bit" style="float:left; margin-right: 10px; margin-bottom: 0px;" /></a>As I told in the last few lines of my <a href="/2009/12/30/windows-7/">previous post</a>, I had some issues installing the Oracle 10g client on my Windows 7 installation. After installing the 10g client, I immediately noticed it wouldn&#8217;t work: When opening the Microsoft ODBC Administrator, the Oracle datasource just wasn&#8217;t there. So I started to Google and the first hits I got were not very promising: <a href="http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=3640806">10g isn&#8217;t supported on Windows 7</a>. It&#8217;s all over the place. Not supported. Won&#8217;t work. Why bother. One of the Oracle forum threads however shows that <a href="http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=3990994">I had to use the 11g client</a>. This isn&#8217;t supported either, but works at least. Better this than nothing, so I started to download the Oracle 11g 64bit client. Sure, my OS is 64 bit. 500MB. Damn.</p>
<p>When the download was finally finished, I installed this 11g client and noticed that indeed, the Oracle ODBC driver appeared in the ODBC manager. Hooray! So I set up the ODBC data source for <a href="http://www.smasystems.com/products/heat.htm">the application that I tried to set up</a> and indeed, I could choose the datasource, I selected it and &#8230; the application just crashed. Gone. Damn. As expected actually, since the software doesn&#8217;t support the 11g client. So I started to search further, noticed there was an update of the 10g client (with Vista support) so I started to download that one (another 500MB download) but I continued my search. I noticed a strange thing about another application, Powerbuilder 11, that has 11g support, but which refused to connect to the oracle database, although the 11g client was installed. It was a difficult search, but all of a sudden, I came across <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/sybase.public.powerbuilder.database/browse_thread/thread/0c48c459cb84a311?pli=1">Google Groups</a> where a few words were blinking.</p>
<p><center><strong style="font-size: 14pt;">PB is 32 bit and requires 32 bit client libraries.</strong></center></p>
<p>How embarrassing. Of course! Powerbuilder didn&#8217;t say it couldn&#8217;t find the Oracle installation, it said it couldn&#8217;t load a specific DLL (a specific <strong>64bit</strong> DLL). And that&#8217;s the reason why my 32bit installations of Oracle doesn&#8217;t appear in the ODBC manager: it only shows 64 bit ODBC drivers! So, I didn&#8217;t cancel my 64bit download of Oracle 10g, but I added two other downloads: 32bit version of the latest 10g and the 32bit version of 11g. (you can guess the filesize). </p>
<p>At the installation (I speak 2 hours later and a little modification later), I ran into this other problem. The installer didn&#8217;t continue since the OS version isn&#8217;t supported. It requires at most Windows 6.0 and I have Windows 6.1 (yes, Windows 7 is version 6.1). But there&#8217;s <a href="http://msutic.blogspot.com/2009/08/how-to-instal-oracle-client-11g-on.html">a quick and simple work-around</a> by faking that the OS is supported. The installation worked. Powerbuilder could now connect to the Oracle database (using these 32bit data sources) but my problem on Heat was still standing: no 32bit ODBC drivers in my ODBC manager. There had to be a way to set them up. And <a href="http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-IE/sqldataaccess/thread/685eacc1-a670-42d4-8392-924230fa90cb">there is</a>. It&#8217;s called the &#8220;32bit version of the ODBC manager&#8221; which is the second hit when you enter &#8220;ODBC&#8221; in the start menu search field.</p>
<p>And now everything falls into place. The fact that Powerbuilder couldn&#8217;t see any of the System DSN&#8217;s, is part of the same problem: it can&#8217;t see any of the 64bit System DSN&#8217;s, but it CAN see all the 32bit System DSN&#8217;s.</p>
<p>So my problem is just that I installed the 64 bit version of Windows 7. If I would have installed the 32 bit version, I wouldn&#8217;t have had any problems I guess&#8230;</p>
<p>Running 64 bit Windows 7, my Oracle 10g problems are thus solved by</p>
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<li>Installing the 32 bit versions of the Oracle clients (both 10g and 11g work without a problem &#8211; so far)</li>
<li>Setting up the ODBC data bases using the 32bit version of the ODBC manager (which is included by default)</li>
</ul>
<p>It took me only three days to figure that out.</p>
<p><div style="font-size: 0.8em"><a href="http://www.bermione.be/technology/the-world-is-not-quite-ready-for-64bit/">The world is not quite ready for 64bit</a> originally read on <a href="http://www.bermione.be">bermione.be</a></div></p>]]></content:encoded>
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